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Still no de Jongh! Heyneke a bigger clown than Snorre!

November 7, 2012 in Uncategorized

The Springboks will face an all black team on Saturday. No not the current World Champs, but the fiery Irish will play in an all black kit so that their green jerseys do not clash with the real ‘green & gold’.
 
The Springboks won 15/20 clashes, while they lost 3 and drew 1 vs the Paddies. The Springboks did lose in Dublin in 2004/06/09 and before that way back in 1965!
 
Heyneke Meyer will be drinking celebarions Guiness (we’ll that’s what you do in Ireland) all night as this Bok team is good enough. However, how can Juan de Jongh still not make the starting XV? Jaco Taute failed at centre against the kiwis in Soweto and he prefers the fullback position. Is it Heyneke’s love for Zane ‘blue bull’ Kirchner that stops the obvious move of Taute at 15 and de Jongh (de Villiers’ partner in the Cape) at 13?
 
Great to see that Patrcik Lambie will start. Morne Steyn still on the bench ahead of Elton Jantjies stinks of Meyer’s lack of giving non-white players proper opportunities!
 
The Springbok team:
15 Zane Kirchner, 14 JP Pietersen, 13 Jaco Taute, 12 Jean de Villiers (kaptein), 11 Francois Hougaard, 10 Patrick Lambie, 9 Ruan Pienaar, 8 Duane Vermeulen, 7 Willem Alberts, 6 Francois Louw, 5 Juandré Kruger, 4 Eben Etzebeth, 3 Jannie du Plessis, 2 Adriaan Strauss, 1 Beast MtawariraReserves: 16 Schalk Brits, 17 CJ van der Linde, 18 Pat Cilliers, 19 Flip van der Merwe, 20 Marcel Coetzee, 21 Morné Steyn, 22 Juan de Jongh 23. Lwazi Mvovo
My Springbok team:
14: JP Pietersen  15: Jaco Taute  11: Lwazi Mvovo
13: Juan de Jongh  12: Jean de Villiers (C)
10: Patrick Lambie  9: Ruan Pienaar
6: Francois Louw 8: Duane Vermeulen  7: Willem Alberts
5: Juandre Kruger  4: Eben Etsebeth
3: Jannie du Plessis  2: Adriaan Strauss  1: Beast Mtwarira
 
Reserves: Pat Cilliers / Heinke vd Merwe / Schalk Brits / Flip vd Merwe
Francois Hougaard / Elton Jantjes / Marcell Coetzee / Lionel Mapoe
 
 Ireland will not be standing tall for long as the Springboks will win by 12.
 
The ‘men with skirts’ will try to beat the mighty All Blacks for the first time in 107 years. Good luck with that. These two countries first played in Edinburgh in 1905 and the best the ‘William Wallaces’ could achieve in 28 clashes were two draws in 10964 and 1983.
All Blacks by +20 (if it doesn’t rain!)
 
The Wallabies have frog legs on the menu or will the French serve up ‘chicken ala king’? Who know what to expect from the rude and emotional frenchies? The Wallabies must be on a high after stopping the bros ‘across the ditch’ a few weeks ago, but this one could go any why. France by 3?
 
PS: How much will the new scrum engagement laws affect the southern hemisphere teams which has not played under it. Instead of ‘crouch-touch-pause-engage it is now,couch-touch-set.
 
 

17 responses to Still no de Jongh! Heyneke a bigger clown than Snorre!

  1. New scrum engagement rule is a good thing but could cost us a few early scrums. i am sure though that Pieter de Viliers (not Snorre) will sort them out.
    JdJ should have started but i think HM wants to show consistancy with his selections. Coaches are like that.
    I am always worried about the Irish, like i said in my blog, you cant count them out in a fight, a drinking competition or a rugby match.

  2. Agree really can’t understand what HM has against JdJ?

  3. You cant say when HM picks M Steyn ahead of jantjies its because of a race issue! How about keeping Kirchener at fullback instead of another better player then? Come on man, this is a sickness of this country, the moment a black person feels he’s being done in it is blamed on racism.
    The non white players that should be there are Mvovo and JDJ. But then there are lots other white players who could just as easily be selected but weren’t.
    The only issue I have with HM is his favouritism (maybe provincialism – Bulls) of certain players and his obsession with size. We all know thats the reason why a few players arent there who should be

  4. LeeuBok:firstly, yes I can say that because that is what I think. secondly HM always sees colours! he’ll keep non-whites easily in his team when they are Bulls ala Kirchner and Chillies! but to not pick de Jongh when he is Jean’s normal partner and then pick Taute (I’m big fan of Taute at 15) after his defence was below par vs the AB’s is rubbish. So yes he could pick de Jongh instead of Zane to keep the colours going, but Zane is a Bull! MSteyn is gone, not the future. so he can bring in Arno Botha (like he did vir JPottie en JJ Engelbrecht =Bulls) because Botha might be the future, but why not Jantjes on the bench. why was Kolisi not brought in if he brings in players for the future!

  5. TwoCents, consitency would have been to keep Stormers centres together especially now that he is giving Lambie a go. you dont need consistence in selections with fullback, so drop Zane ena pick Taute. Pieter will for sure have the boys ready, but, I’m with you about the Irish!PS: aparently, HM doesn’t want to pick Aplon and de Jongh because of their ‘dance celebrations’! what ‘n verkrampte bliksem. then half of the Wallabies or AB’s wont play!

  6. The point I’m making is that yes, there are a couple of black players who can count themselves unlucky to not be in the team. BUT there are also many white players who can count themselves unlucky to not be there!
    And I completely agree with you, jantjies should be on the bench and JDJ starting at 13 with Taute at 15.
    Kolisi – I think the guy is over rated. Yes he was playing very good rugby, but for a very short period before he got injured. And we’ve got so many good, nay excellent, lose forwards that kolisi wont be missed.

  7. By the way, only mr HM will know why he’s not playing Taute at 15 and JDJ 13. And MS on bench instead of Jantjies. Every single rugby fan here in SA thinks this is the logical combination. Everyone except HM

  8. As long as they score many tries for the boks I don’t care if they kiss each other oopmond when they celebrate!!!

  9. Kolisi, K Daniel & M Coetzee were the standout loosies in S15, both of them got a call up, but kolisi not. no one would have had a problem if Kolisi played against the poms but no, HM picked another overrated Bule, J Pottie! when did Arno Botha play great S15?

  10. Have you realised that J Pottie had to cut his hair, Hougaardt his ‘rats-tail’….when is Niknaks Zane going to cut his? HM is verkrampt!

  11. Daniels got a call up but he didn’t stay there for long and got dropped again. I agree J. potgieter and a botha do not deserve to come close to te bok team! They’re not bad players but I think HM seriously had his blue goggels on when he picked them!

  12. Wat êk nie kan verstaan nie is die uiteenlopende spêl styl van die twee losskakels wat Meyer gekies het,wil hy bal in die hand hou,of skop en storm. Lambie is oorwegend aanvallend,Steyn speel weer die skop tipe spel,die span kan tog nie beide patrone wil speel nie.Jantjies sou beter by Lambie se spel patroon ingepas het,en terloops waar het Steyn homself weer bewys.
    De Jongh soos reeks genoem is, is meer vertroud met De Villiers se spel,hulle het immers baie saam gespeel.Taute as ek reg onthou,het maar onlangs weer begin speel na n besering.
    Voel jammer vir Louis Ludik,was die heel jaar die beste heelagter en baie bestêndig wat betref verdediging en aanval, sal geen span in die steek laat nie.Ook sal Hougaard sy sokkies moet optrek,daars n outjie genaamd Cobus Reinach wat die wereld aan die brand speel, kort net nog meer ondervinding.

  13. EPK, jy raak baie waar dinge aan oor HM wat lyk my tans so effens uit sy verkrampte steelstyl gedwing word want dit is nie meer 2007 nie. ek hoop net nie hy gaan Goosen/Lambie/Taute/Jantjies sulke jongmanne met flair ‘dood caoch’ nie. MSteyn se dae is getel. HM moet nou met die jong outjies volhard. as die Bokke verloor met die nuwe young guns sal Bok-fans dit kan sluk, maar as hy aanhou met Chillies/Zane/JPottie en MSteyn dan gaan dit nie werk nie. HM pluk al van sy eerste groep samestelling onnodige latte vir sy gat. Hy kom bv vir Mvovo of Rhule bo Hougaard gekies het, de Jongh en JP en Beast dan Taute in Zane se plek. Met Jantjies ipv MS op die bank sou hy dus 5 anderskleuriges op meriete in die 22 gehad het! hy sal moet bykom of die politieke druk sal hd keer met reg toeneem. dan moet hy nie bitch en moan nie!

  14. HM lyk my sit vas in dieselfde denkpatroon wat Snorre en baie ander afrigters hul alies laat sien het. Ek kies wie ek wil en basta met enigee iemand anders. Ek wonder of die keurders enigsins nog ‘n se het in die samestelling van die bokspan? Taute is ‘n rowwe diamant vir die toekoms, maar Ludik is die jaar die beste heelagter in SA en hoort op meriete ‘n plek in enige springbokspan te verdien. Rhule is dalk bietjie nat agter die ore om in die beginspan op te draf en Mvovo het hierdie jaar ‘n paar krake in sy mondering gewys. Nico Scheepers van die vrystaat het die jaar bestendig vertoon en met JP petersen wat beide kante kan speel sou hy ‘n extra stelskopper en spelmaker in die span gebring het. Jorrie Le Roux het ook my beindruk in die cheetahs span en het vir griekwas op heelagter en vleuel diens gedoen… Anvallende wapen enige iemand? JDJ saam met JDV blyk die beste senter kombinasie te wees, MAAR Tim Whitehead (ja kevin ek weet hy is nog effe groen) het die heeljaar saam met Paul delport en JP petersen ‘n gedugte kombinasie gevorm wat my laat dink die man kan saam met enige iemand partner en hul goed laat lyk. Dalk ‘n proposisie vir die toekoms. Daar is genoeg gekleurde spelers wat op meriete die bokspan kon haal en HM se kwota gevul het, maar sy lojaliteit aan bulls spelers (wat glad nie perform nie) gaan die bokke nog duur te staan kom.

  15. Tim Whitehead is baie underrated. Goeie sentertjie.

  16. pROOVINCE, Whitehead ‘n klassiek Ikey tipe senter. slim senter ala Peter Whipp en Robbie Fleck, maar nog nie in daai klas nie. hy is bestendig op S15 vlak maar nog nie vreesaanjaend nie

  17. Sjoe mense, ek het die naweek vlak by n beroerte gehad….Ek weet nie of ek die enigste een is nie, maar ek verstaan nie heeltemal HM se denkwyses nie….

    In my opinie gaan hy die heelweek aan oor hoe n goeie impakspeler Schalk Brits bv is. Ek stem dat Strauus n goeie wedstryd gehad het, maar waarom hom nie n breuk gee laaste 20 of 30 nie?

    Ek glo ook dat om De jong die laate 20-30 minute op 13 op te gebring het en taute 15 toe te skuif miskien die nodige Spoed op die bal sou kry in daardie laat moë stadium van die wedstryd?

    Persoonlike dink ek Kirshner moet nou n ruskans kry, speel hom dalk van die bank af.

    CJ van der linde het vir my meer in die pad voorgekom as ietsie anders regtig, om nie eers te praat van mis duikslae nie…

    Goeie punte vir die gewone sttaatmakers, FLO, Strauss, Etsebeth, en Lambie het ook goed gedoen onder omstandighede.

    Ek glo Meyer het hier n groep wat die ding kan doen, maar hy sal die kombinasies moet regkry op spelpeil en nie naam of provinsie verteenwoordiging nie…

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