Bok Barometer

March 26, 2013 in Rugby, Springboks

All the SA Teams have now had a start in the Super Rugby Competition and there can really not be many excuses regarding rustiness and lack of fitness. A few players have put their hands up for Bok contention, some taking their chances while other would be contenders are still injured.

Based on performances so far this season, this would be my Bok side if I had to pick today.

1. Beast. Still solid in the scrum, and surprisingly scored only his first try in Super Rugby this past weekend. Not many other contenders for loosehead at the moment, and I would even bracket Gurthro Steenkamp in there. Any idea where JC Janse van Rensburg is? Coenie also deserves a mention, but he is more utilised as a tighthead nowadays, making it a bit difficult to pick him.

2. Adriaan Strauss. Yes, every Stormer loves Deon Fourie, but when it comes to scrumming, lineout throws and clearing the ruck, only Strauss’ name comes up right now.

3. Jannie du Plessis.  THe doc is really the only tighthead worth his salt in the SA setup, and this is an area of real concern for the Bok selectors. Very little depth in this department.

4. Steven Sykes. A hard working lock and solid on the field. Etzebeth is set to return soon though to reclaim his spot.

5. Bekker. No question.

6. Brussouw.  Almost back to his best and sure to kill the ball carrier with every tackle. Kolisi can also be mentioned here.

7. Lappies Labuschagne. Impressed me in every game so far. Great defense and great carrier of the ball. Arno Botha has also impressed me.

8. Duanne Vermeulen. Solid, a workhorse, defends like a demon and carries the ball brilliantly. Kankowski also plays brilliantly and Phillip van der Walt also deserves a mention.

9. Jano Vermaak. Tough decision with so little to choose from. No one really impressed but Nic Groom has provided some good ball for the Stormers backs too.

10. Patrick Lambie. Being consistent with his performances and settling in nicely into the flyhalf role. Morne Steyn to be back up with Goosen injured.

11. Habana is injured, and not many options here. Mvovo will be my shoe in.

12. Jean de Villiers.  Really his best position as seen again at the weekend. Frans Steyn has just not been firing so far at 12, while Robert Ebersohn as also been impressive.

13. Paul Jordaan. Excellent pace and in a position where there is little to choose from, he is the one eyed man in the kingdom of the blind.

14. Aplon. Has been performing brilliantly at the Stormers and showed again on the weekend why he is so feared by New Zealand sides. Sergeal Peterson has been impressive too.

15. Frans Steyn.  I might be mistaken but I am almost sure he came on as Full Back on the weekend and did looked much better. Consider however that they played a Rebels side that was falling apart. Joe Peterson has done well at the Stormers while Zane Kirchner should also be regarded.

Now I know I will be taken apart for several of these choices. At loose forward there is a host of players who can be picked. Marcell Coetzee, Arno Botha, Kolisi, Jacques Botes, Deysel, Keegan Daniel and Spies could all be considered, but those are my choices. We are thin in certain areas like tighthead, scrumhalf and centre, and hopefully some injured players will return soon and others will return to form soon.

What does your Bok Barometer look like?

34 responses to Bok Barometer

  1. 15 Frans Steyn (in Test rugby, big boot and tackling = key)
    14 Willie le Roux (we need big smart footballers in the back three)
    13 Jordaan
    12 Jean de Villiers
    11 Mvovo
    10 Lambie (not playing great right now; but kicking better)
    09 Pienaar
    08 Vermuelen (does not shrink)
    07 Labuschagne
    06 Louw (c) (should be captain at RWC 2015)
    05 Bekker
    04 Etzebeth
    03 Jannie
    02 Strauss (let Bismarck try to outplay him, first)
    01 Beast

    On the bench, versatile X factor guys like Aplon, Hougaard, JPP, du Toit, Fourie, and Elstadt should be considered.

  2. No he might be talking about Francois Uys, he is winning his lineouts,carring like Schalk Burger and tackles well enough

  3. Good team Uysh! The way Jantjies has freed up the stormers, he needs to be considered at 10 if we can have Pietersen at 15.

  4. Great selection Uysh! I’m a stormers supporter, but I don’t understand how some many people can even consider starting any other player in front of Lappies – That guy has been the best loose forward in the competetion. I reckon we have a problem with quality scrumhalfs, sure they are adequate but they don’t hold a candle to the likes of Genia, Aaron Smith, Kerr Barlow.

  5. But a Bok Barometer is not a bok XV, so my Bok XV :

    1. Beast or JC JVR
    2. Bismarck
    3. Malherbe
    4. Etzebeth
    5. Bekker
    6. Deon Fourie (what a scrummager…, he could be the best openside in the world)
    7. Labuschagne or Marcell
    8. Vermeulen
    9. Duvenage
    10. Jantjies
    11. Rhule
    12. De Jongh
    13. Jordaan
    14. Aplon
    15. Taute (when he will be back to his best)

  6. And Habana of course

  7. My Bok barometer :

    1. Beast
    2. Cooper (he impressed me, good scrummager)
    3. Malherbe
    4. Pieter Steph du Toit or De Kock Steenkamp
    5. Bekker
    6. Brussouw
    7. Labuschagne
    8. Engelbrecht
    9. Reinach or Vermaak or Duvenage or Groom
    10. Jantjies
    11. Rhule
    12. Ebersohn
    13. Jordaan
    14. Aplon
    15. Ludik or Pietersen

  8. Nice to see some Kings players being mentioned here

    Sykes, Engelbrecht, Peterson, Maku…

    I rate SP Marais highly as well, but I will give him another season at SR level first.

  9. On Super15 form only:
    15 Louis Ludik (Joe Pietersen as backup)
    14 Gio Aplon (Willie le Roux)
    13 Paul Jordaan (Johan Sadie)
    12 Jean de Villiers (c) (Robert Ebersohn)
    11 JP Pietersen (Raymond Rhule)
    10 Patrick Lambie (Morne Steyn)
    9 Sarel Pretorius (Jano Vermaak)
    8 Duane Vermeulen (Ryan Kankowski/Keegan Daniel)
    7 Marcell Coetzee (Lappies Labuschagne)
    6 Heinrich Brussow (Siya Kolisi)
    5 Andries Bekker (Juandre Kruger)
    4 Rynhardt Elstadt (Yes at 4, Steven Sykes)
    3 Jannie du Plessis (Coenie Oosthuizen)
    2 Adriaan Strauss (Deon Fourie)
    1 Tendai Mtawarira ( Steven Kitshoff)

    If you include overseas and injured players, the following will have to be mentioned:
    10 Johan Goosen
    7 Willem Alberts & Schalk Burger (he’ll be back!) as blindside flankers
    6 Francois Louw
    4 Eben Etsebeth
    2 Bismarck du Plessis & Schalk Brits
    1 Gurthro Steenkamp & Heinke van der Merwe

  10. I don’t see Hougaardt anywhere! Is he injured or has he fallen off the map?

  11. Just one thing about Johan. He should stop driving like an ass.

  12. As usual Uysh… a good colomn… Do agree on a lot of your selections. That being said here would be mine:
    15. Louis Ludik (Joe Pietersen) – in my opinion the two most consistent thus far
    14. Gio Aplon (Ndungane bros and Van den Heever) – Aplon has been sublime and the brothers are solid
    13. Paul Jordaan (Juan de Jongh) – Jordaan has been the best and de Jongh will always be better than the next best.
    12. Jean de Villiers (C) (Robert Ebersohn) – no doubt Jean’s best pozzie and kudos to the Cheetahs for finally moving Ebersohn closer to the ball.
    11. Rayond Rhule (Sergael Pieterson) – out of our left wings only these two look capable though van den Heever didn’t play to badly
    10. Pat Lambie (Elton Jantjies) – Pat has been solid but i feel he could lie flatter and Jantjies is really starting to show some massive promise again.
    9. Nic Groom (Sarel Pretorius) – Sorry but don’t see Jano as a candidate. Nic has been good and Sarel has truly been the Sarel of old at the Cheetahs.
    8. Duane Vermuelen (Keegan Daniel) – If I had to pick a loose trio it would be Flo at 6, Duane at 7 and Daniel at 8. Poacher, Carrier and Link. Deadly trio
    7. Lappies Labuschagne (Rynardt Elstadt) – Lappies has been phenomenal and Elstadt a workhorse.
    6. Heinrich Brussouw (Deon Fourie) – If Brussou can stay injury free he should be a shoe-in and I feel Deon’s Future is at 6.
    5. Andries Bekker (Franco van der Merwe) – Andries is a case of no contest and Franco has been doing well at the Sharks. Juandré needs to pull his head out of his arse!
    4. Flip van der Merwe (Steven Sykes) – Flip has really grown on me as a player and Sykes has always been there or there abouts.
    3. Jannie du Plessis (Coenie Oosthuizen) – Jannie picks himself and Coenie is the future, as soon as they find his brain.
    2. Adriaan Strauss (Craig Burden) – Adriaan is by far the best we have at the moment and I Burden has been solid.
    1. Tendai Mtwarira (Steven Kitshoff) – Beast is so far ahead his in a different solar system. Kitshoff has been solid. Might even be tempted to bracket Trevor Nyakane who has been looking good for the Cheetahs.

  13. I hate a Bok barometer because it generally ignores form for some players while excludes form players because they are not regarded as “Bok quality”

  14. agree 100% with strauss there bud & i am a stormer :) i think that de kock steenkamp shouldve gotten a mention maybe a start over sykes coz just like sykes he does all the donkey work & does it very well. also i love ludik at 15 how this guy kept on getting overlooked by bok coaches baffles me every season.

  15. Impressive MU. Six Grey College old boys in your starting team – and that’s with the Goose out injured :) (sorry, you know me. Had to mention that!)

    Very very sad about the Goose. He must be gutted! There was a write up on the Volksblad website about him (http://www.volksblad.com/Suid-Afrika/Nuus/Oud-Bok-sny-toe-dadelik-Goose-se-knie-20130326) and one of the comments really caught my eye …

    Wiltrud Myburgh Fourie – Maart 27, 2013 om 05:56:
    “Johan was Maandag in dieselfde kamer as my seun wat vir dieselfde tipe besering geopereer is. Wat `n aangename mens! Ons dink die outjies is beroemd en doer bo, maar hy is maar net `n gewone jong seun met groot talent en baie drome wat reeds werklikheid geword het. Ek glo hy gaan 100% herstel en weer sy kant bring vir SA rugby.”

  16. My side will be : 15 Frans Styn , 14 Gio Aplon , 13 JP Pieterson, 12 J De Villiers, 11 Mvovo , 10 Labie , 9 Jano Vermaak , 8 Duane V, 7 Dysel , 6 F Louw , 5 Bekker, 4 PS De Toit, 3 Dr Dup , 2 Straus, 1 Beast

    16 Craig Burden. 17. Melerbe, 18. Kruger, 19. Keagan Daniel 20. Hogard 21. M styn 22. J De Jong

  17. CT said on March 27, 2013

    Vra my broer Jack…

  18. We are in trouble with Lambie as our best 10. He has been pretty poor this season.

    Still prefer him over Morne. We’ll probably still lose, but with Pat we’ll loose 25-15 (3 tries) and with Morne 25-15 (5 penalties).

  19. Eben is the best no.4 on the planet but Steenkamp is making sure that AC is not even thinking about rushing Yster. My selection is:
    1.Beast 2.Strauss 3.Dr Dup 4.Steenkamp 5.Obvious 6.Kolisi 7.Jaques Engelbrecht 8.D Vermuleun 9.Jano 10.Patrick 11.Rhule 12.JDV 13.Robert E 14.Sergeal Petersen 15.Denniler

    16.Bandise Maku 17.Kitshoff/Malherbe 18.PSDT/Cheetahs No.5 19.Lappies Labuschagne/Marcel 20.Sarel 21.Morne 22.E.P 15

  20. Paul Jordaan at 13? Thats a brave call considering his game against the Brumbies.

    • We’re a bit short on options and will probably pick De Jongh as he gets more game time.

  21. Good team and thanks for the Kankowski mention, what about Pieter Steph de Toit?

    • Good point. Du Toit should be given more chances at 4, he is a physical player and makes his way around the field. Cooper, although burly and small is a worthy mention even though he only started his first game this past weekend.

    • Probably an option (du Toit), but he only started once so didn’t consider him an option as yet.

  22. There’s still a long time until test season, but hopefully Ebersohn will do enough to get his name onto that teamsheet

    • Time flies quickly. Only 2 months before the first test, and although a lot can still happen, the Bok selectors will already have the names penciled down.

  23. JC still is playing for the Golden Lions. I read that he picked up an injury during the Mont de Marsan game but haven’t seen anything more about it so I’m not sure if it was serious or not.

  24. If everyone must be considered , including overseas players , i would pick the next team.
    15. Gio Aplon 14 Sergeal Petersen 13. Paul Delport 12 Jean de Villiers 11. JP Pietersen 10 . Patrick Lambie 9. Sarel Pretorius 8 . Jaques Engelbrecht 7 Reinhardt Elstadt 6. Heinrich Brussouw 5. Andries Bekker 4. Pieter-Steph Du Toit 3. Frans Malherbe 2. Adriaan Strauss 1. Guthro Steenkamp
    Reserves Francois Steyn , Nick Groom , Duanne Vermeulen, Marcel Coetzee , Beast Mtawarira Tiaan Liebenberg Jannie Du Plessis With this pack of forwards and the support from the bench we can dictate from the word go. Between Francois Steyn and Groom they cover the whole backline.