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Lions Player Updates – Confirmed moves

October 3, 2012 in Uncategorized

Latest: Golden Lions Rugby Union CEO Ruben Moggee confirmed that Springbok prop Patric Cilliers and utility forward Michael Rhodes will both play for the Stormers next year.

Moggee also revealed that veteran Lions lock Franco van der Merwe will go “on loan” to the Sharks for Super Rugby in 2013.

The Lions boss also confirmed that Bok backline stars Elton Jantjies and Jaco Taute have yet to decide where they will play their Super Rugby in 2013, although they will be loaned to other franchises.

New Bok utility back Lionel Mapoe, called up to the national team for the first time this week, has been linked to the Bulls. However, his movements in 2013 must also still be confirmed.

http://www.rugby365.com/article/49941-stormers-snag-two-big-lions

It was confirmed at the media briefing that Derick Minnie signed with the Lions until 2014.

Gains:

Warwick Tecklenburg – flank (Bulls)
Franco Mostert – lock (Bulls)
Schalk van Heerden (Wikus’s son) – lock (Bulls) (rumoured)

On Loan (Confirmed):

Elton Jantjies – confirmed but destination as yet unknown, probably Sharks or Stormers
Franco van der Merwe – Sharks
Jaco Taute – confirmed but destination as yet unknown

On Loan (Rumours):

Lionel Mapoe – Bulls

Losses so far:

12 Jul 2012: Grant Hattingh – Bulls (although he was only on a short term contract till the end of Super Rugby)
14 Aug 2012: Rudy Paige – Bulls
24 Aug 2012: Jacobie Adriaanse – Llanelli Scarletts (Wales)
25 Aug 2012: Caylib Oosthuizen – Cheetahs
27 Aug 2012: Paul Willemse – Bulls
28 Aug 2012: Ruan Botha – WP
11 Sept 2012: Josh Strauss – Glasgow Warriors (Scotland)
14 Sept 2012: Etienne Oosthuizen – Brumbies (Australia)
19 Sept 2012: Wikus van Heerden – Retired
3 Oct 2012: Pat Cilliers – Stormers
3 Oct 2012: Michael Rhodes – Stormers
3 October: Bandise Maku – Kings

Rumours & rumours of rumours:

Callie Visagie – Kings or WP
Warren Whiteley – Kings
Butch James – Sharks/Retiring
Alwyn Hollenbach – Sharks
Martin Bezuidenhout – Unknown
Ruan Combrinck – Unknown
Cobus Grobbelaar – Unknown
Waylon Murray – Unknown

Sources (but not the only ones):

http://www.sudrugby.com/transferts/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_2012%E2%80%9313_Super_Rugby_transfers

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Lions player updates – Another Bull to become a Lion

October 3, 2012 in Uncategorized

Latest: Lions CEO Ruben Moggee says flyhalf Elton Jantjies is likely to join the Sharks or Stormers on loan for the 2013 Super Rugby campaign. However, Moggee confirmed to this site that nothing has been finalised yet.

‘We realise that our best players need to play at the highest level. And that is Super Rugby,’ said Moggee. ‘We are still planning to play in an alternative tournament with European, American and South Sea clubs next season, so we’ll need to have a competitive squad.

‘But we can afford to loan out a few of our best players to other Super Rugby franchises, if they can get starting opportunities. We won’t loan them out to be benched.

http://keo.co.za/2012/10/03/sharks-stormers-in-line-for-jantjies/

Young Blue Bull lock, Franco Mostert (21), has signed with the Lions for 2013. This follows on the news that Blue Bulls loose forward Warwick Tecklenburg signed with the Lions. Both these players get limited game time at the Bulls waiting behind Juandre Kruger and Flip van der Merwe (Mostert) or Dewald Potgieter, Arno Botha, CJ Standers, etc. (Tevklenburg). An exchange deal in process between the Bulls and the Lions to use their “bubbling under” players?

Die Beeld reports that Butch James will be retiring after the Currie Cup.

Gains:

Warwick Tecklenburg
Franco Mostert

On Loan (Confirmed):

On Loan (Rumours):

Elton Jantjies – Sharks/Stormers
Franco van der Merwe – Sharks

Losses so far:

12 Jul 2012: Grant Hattingh – Bulls (although he was only on a short term contract till the end of Super Rugby)
14 Aug 2012: Rudy Paige – Bulls
24 Aug 2012: Jacobie Adriaanse – Llanelli Scarletts (Wales)
25 Aug 2012: Caylib Oosthuizen – Cheetahs
27 Aug 2012: Paul Willemse – Bulls
28 Aug 2012: Ruan Botha – WP
11 Sept 2012: Josh Strauss – Glasgow Warriors (Scotland)
14 Sept 2012: Etienne Oosthuizen – Brumbies (Australia)
19 Sept 2012: Wikus van Heerden – Retired

Rumours & rumours of rumours:

Elton Jantjies – WP/Sharks (on loan) (It’s an open secret that WP wants him but he has also been linked to the Bulls)
Jaco Taute – Bulls, WP or Sharks
Derick Minnie – Sharks (Comments on LionWorld suggest he won’t be going anywhere)
Bandise Maku – Kings or WP
Callie Visagie – Kings or WP
Warren Whiteley – Kings
Butch James – Sharks/Retiring
Pat Cilliers – WP
Alwyn Hollenbach – Sharks
Franco van der Merwe – Sharks (on loan)/Cheetahs
Michael Rhodes – WP

A source (but not the only one): http://www.sudrugby.com/transferts/

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Lions Player Contracts, Loans, Releases & Other Issues

September 11, 2012 in Uncategorized

It has already been made known that some players are leaving (Josh being the latest), that others have contracts until October 2013 and yet others have contracts that allow them to play for another team in Super Rugby so it all seems signed, settled and hunky dory in Lions country, at least as far as player issues go.

Many Lions supporters try to be optimistic about the future and seem to feel that even if we lose our top senior players “at least we still have the school boys and juniors coming through to rebuild”.

But all is not always as it seems, unfortunately, and many Lions supporters live in Cloud Cuckoo Land.

Legal Contracts:

The reality that faces the Lions is that most big unions and franchises will not want to sign a player for one Super Rugby season and then release him back to the Lions. If we learned anything from what happened at the SARU General Council vote most unions are not interested in the Lions future and they will do whatever they can to renege on any loan agreement. And if they really want the player they will, at best, offer to buy out his contract with the Lions and, at worst, just keep him and force the Lions into a legal battle they can ill afford.

And with the Lions unable to ensure competitive game time and exposure for their top players, and therefore unable to provide him with meaningful employment, they stand a good chance of losing in court irrespective of what the contracts say.

The country is fill of journeymen playing for the lesser unions, of which the GLRU is now one, but there is limited opportunity for top players to showcase their skills and the fact is that not a single player from the lesser unions make it into the Springbok side. It will, therefore, be very difficult for the GLRU to make a case for keeping a player who has a chance of making it at national level.

Moral Contracts:

Apart from the legal issue there is also the moral issue of a union being responsible for looking after a player’s career and advancement opportunities, something that will be virtually impossible to do when not competing at the top level.

What is Kevin de Klerk going to do is one of the players come to him with a two-year or three-year contract offer and asks: “Please release me and let me go”? Refuse him? (We just saw Josh released to sign a three year contract with Glasgow Warriors)

Junior Players:

So, the Lions will have to look at building and rebuilding from their junior ranks?

Once a again this is a bit of a pipe dream as the best juniors and schoolboys will look to further their careers and the Lions will have very little to offer these youngsters. Players like Paul Willemse, Ruan Botha, Caylib Oosthuizen, Rudy Paige and others will look to move to unions where the playing opportunities are better.

And it is not merely a case that they might have the opportunity to play Super Rugby one day. The fact is that during the Super Rugby competition opportunities to play senior rugby open up as the franchises use their top players for Super Rugby and draw on the junior players to play Vodacom Cup, something lesser unions are not able to do. In non-Super Rugby unions their top players play Vodacom Cup leaving little for the junior players except play club and varsity rugby.

Unfortunately we have yet to see the ripple effect of the decision to kick the Lions out of Super Rugby but I dread the day comes for us to play a knock out match to get back into Super Rugby, even against the Kings, with all our top players gone.

I would love it if Kevin de Klerk and the Lions management can counter the impact of the SARU decision will have on player migration but unfortunately I do not see how they are going to do it.